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 Post subject: Metaltone
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:29 pm 
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Hi All

I have seen the "Metaltone" strategy mentioned a couple of times and on todays trade of the day, having not the foggiest idea of what this is could someone please explain it or point me in the direction of a suitable link/url.

Many Thanks

Al


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:28 am 
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Very simply...back draw with 50%initial stake and lay leader(dog) with 75%initial stake.
good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:12 am 
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Thank you JurBer.


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:46 pm 
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statcat wrote:
Hi All

I have seen the "Metaltone" strategy mentioned a couple of times and on todays trade of the day, having not the foggiest idea of what this is could someone please explain it or point me in the direction of a suitable link/url.

Many Thanks

Al


Hello Statcat

Jurber is quite right...here`s a fuller explanation:


1.) Back the current draw odds for 50% of your initial lay bet
2.) Lay the team that scored for 75% of your initial lay bet

This will greatly reduce your liabilities and give you a big green on the team that is behind. Should the team that is behind score an equaliser, lay them off so you profit a bit on each result (NOTE: you won't be able to equalise the profit, so you'll have to play around with a number that works. Usually, I lay for the liability I have on the Draw which means i break even if there is a draw and make a profit if one of the teams goes on to win)

By way of example, let's say the odds to lay the draw are 3.75 and I put $20 on it, giving me a liability of $55 on the draw and green of $20 on either team winning.

The underdog scores and their lay odds go down to 1.9 but the draw odds (to back) only go up to 3.65.

I back the draw @ 3.65 for $10 (50% of $20) and I lay the leading team @ 1.90 for $15 (75% of $20). I now have a $13.65 liability on the draw, a $3.50 liability on the team that scored and a green of $25 on the team that is behind (which is hopefully the favourite). Wort-case scenario is that I will lose $3.50, because if there is an equaliser I will be able to lay off the $25 green to make a guaranteed profit/break-even on any result.

As has been suggested the trick is to pick the right games :-) I tend to look at teams statistics on SoccerStats.com, particularly their head-to-head, but also their recent form as indicated by their last 8 games. I tend to look for few draws in their H2H and in their recent form. I also like teams who tend to score in the first half which you can see from these stats too.

I also took Adster's advice tend to look for games where one of the teams is below 2.00, the other teams is 4.00 or above and the draw is no higher than 3.75. I will sometimes back 0-0 for insurance, but I play that one by ear.


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:44 pm 
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Cheers for thst Bingo

Al


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:55 pm 
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Cheers Bingo


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:28 am 
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aaa,Metaltone start if lay koef.(team who scored)is about 2.10 or lower...
good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:35 pm 
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what would you do when an equaliser comes so late that the draw price actually halves after..... Arsenal game today being example. draw went from 3.4 to 1.6 after Arsenal equalised. I only ask as I did metaltone on this but I missed Hammers goal by few mins so didnt get best prices to do metaltone so I had Arsenal green 62 Hammers red 23 and draw red 84 as I laid draw for 50 at 4.6. It all ended well with me getting 42 green but that was very lucky.


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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:44 am 
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Scotty,

Good question mate. I tend to back the 1-1 with the Metaltone strat. For example and wish had videod the game but Wigan v Hull on Saturday we traded in the chat room. As memory serves me, I ltd with £50, Hull took the lead so I backed the draw with £25 and layed Hull with £37. I was left with £62 green on Wigan, £32 red on draw and £9 red on Hull. So I backed the 1-1 scoreline at 5s i think to cover my red on draw in match odds. So what could have happened? IF Hull had got the next goal I'd have lost £8 from 1-1 and £9 on match odds on Hull, so £17. IF as happened Wigan scored I had £62 green on them to play around with plus i could lay off the 1-1 which came in too.
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 Post subject: Re: Metaltone
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:29 pm 
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Do you think you could automate this trade using Gruss Software or Bet Angel Excel Function? You would probably have to estimate the odds range after the goal but it could be done i think?


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