Laying 1.5 goals and 0-0 insurance technique

Floopy2010 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:28 am **Posts:** 3

Yes at last i have joined the communtiy and have decided to get involved with you trading nutters

So here we go my first question to Adster or if anyone else has some input on this it wuld be appriciated, so no pressure !

I have noticed in the past you have used this techinique and i was wondering what strategy do you use :

The wagering requirements and % needed for the lay and 0-0 insurance ?

Whats odds for the lay and 0-0 you need so you can apply this techinque to and the type of games needed ?.

Now am i right thinking you are quids if you get a quick and early goal and if no goals at half time you hedge your loss over the under and over 1.5 goal market and lay off the 0-0 for a scratch trade.

But i was wondering what happens if there is a late goal in the first half, will the odds rise enough for you to make profit and cover the 0-0 insurance or will you just break even ?

And also if you let it ride say if there is only one goal in the first half when do you trade out or is that a personal choice on how much you wish to lose on each trade ?

Questions , Questions, Questions !!

Cheers.

adster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:39 pm

Hi mate,

Good to see you.

I do occasionally use this for games where I feel there will be goals. Tend to use something like a 10/50 or 20/100 split, lesser on the 0-0. IF the game is still 0-0 at 60 minutes though I trade out for a loss. Why? Because a goal then would lose you the 0-0 and the under 1.5 lay wouldn still leave you dangerously close to a red/scratch/small green. Remember that when a goal is scored the under 1.5 price mirrors the 1-0 or 0-1 scoreline.

I actually prefer another method which is waiting until the price drops to around 2.5 to 2.7 and lay under 1.5 then, (should be about 25 minutes in) with the right games. Then lay under 1.5 and wait for a goal. When a goal goes in I then back the 1-0 or 0-1 scoreline. Once done you cannot lose. Danger of course is the dreaded 0-0!!! Although in premier this season only been 4.6% finish 0-0. Long may it continue. :lol:

Floopy2010 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:28 am **Posts:** 3

Hey up Ads,

Cheers for replying much apprciated. One of question i was querying about was a goal late in the first half now if you used stakes 10/50 and you layed at say 4 would the odds rise enough to make profit and cover the loss of the 0-0 or would you just break even ???, or if not is this when you cover the 1-0 0-1 for insurance just incase you decide to let it ride ????

Quite like the other technique you mentioned as well, and i have also noticed a nice trend in goals in the premiership, so these techniques could be quite useful.

Cheers

adster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:31 pm

Floopy2010 wrote:

Hey up Ads,

Cheers for replying much apprciated. One of question i was querying about was a goal late in the first half now if you used stakes 10/50 and you layed at say 4 would the odds rise enough to make profit and cover the loss of the 0-0 or would you just break even ???, or if not is this when you cover the 1-0 0-1 for insurance just incase you decide to let it ride ????

Quite like the other technique you mentioned as well, and i have also noticed a nice trend in goals in the premiership, so these techniques could be quite useful.

Cheers

Welcome mate,

Trouble on the first one is after a goal you have lost the 0-0 and the price doesnt always shoot out enough to allow an overall profit. By using the second one and waiting for the price to drop to say 2.6 you can lay at that price so say for £50 your liabilities will be £80. Once a team scores and that price drops to say even 4s you can back that with say £25 so IF game finishes 1-0 or 0-1 you will have scratch but another goal to either side and you will win £25.

Floopy2010 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:28 am **Posts:** 3

Yeah i thought as much it might not give you an overall profit sometimes after a 1st goal late in the first half.

So what loss roughly would you occur if you layed from the start on odds 3-4.0 and backed at 0-0 at 12.5 and no goals came after 60 mins when you close the trade using stakes 10/50.

Sorry about all the questions but i am going to do some testing on both ideas here using small stakes of course and see how i get on, therefore i sort of want to get a picture on what the outcome might be before jumping head first into this if that makes sense.

Again cheers for your time.

adster · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:24 pm

Floopy2010 wrote:

Yeah i thought as much it might not give you an overall profit sometimes after a 1st goal late in the first half.

So what loss roughly would you occur if you layed from the start on odds 3-4.0 and backed at 0-0 at 12.5 and no goals came after 60 mins when you close the trade using stakes 10/50.

Sorry about all the questions but i am going to do some testing on both ideas here using small stakes of course and see how i get on, therefore i sort of want to get a picture on what the outcome might be before jumping head first into this if that makes sense.

Again cheers for your time.

With any of these trades the insurance is there as cover, it's not there as the main profit maker and that is what people find hard to follow. The more you put on insurance the less you profit when the trade goes your way which should happen more often than not.

IF a game started and under 1.5 was say 3.8 by ht it will be half that, so 1.9. 0-0 starting at say 12.5 will be around 4.5. So on cs green at ht you would have about £18 but a red of £50 on under 1.5.............

SilkBC · **Joined:** Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:37 am **Posts:** 13

adster wrote:

I actually prefer another method which is waiting until the price drops to around 2.5 to 2.7 and lay under 1.5 then, (should be about 25 minutes in) with the right games. Then lay under 1.5 and wait for a goal. When a goal goes in I then back the 1-0 or 0-1 scoreline. Once done you cannot lose. Danger of course is the dreaded 0-0!!! Although in premier this season only been 4.6% finish 0-0. Long may it continue. :lol:

If the U1.5 price mirrors the 0-1 (or 1-0) score line after a goal, why would you just not back the U1.5 after the first goal? If the 0-1/1-0 score line is, say, 4s, then the back price for U1.5 will be that as well. You also keep your money in the same market and get your original stake freed up to invest elsewhere.

Lay @ 2.6, Back @ 4s = PROFIT

-SilkBC

adster · **Posted:** Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:53 pm

SilkBC wrote:

adster wrote:

I actually prefer another method which is waiting until the price drops to around 2.5 to 2.7 and lay under 1.5 then, (should be about 25 minutes in) with the right games. Then lay under 1.5 and wait for a goal. When a goal goes in I then back the 1-0 or 0-1 scoreline. Once done you cannot lose. Danger of course is the dreaded 0-0!!! Although in premier this season only been 4.6% finish 0-0. Long may it continue. :lol:

If the U1.5 price mirrors the 0-1 (or 1-0) score line after a goal, why would you just not back the U1.5 after the first goal? If the 0-1/1-0 score line is, say, 4s, then the back price for U1.5 will be that as well. You also keep your money in the same market and get your original stake freed up to invest elsewhere.

Lay @ 2.6, Back @ 4s = PROFIT

-SilkBC

Hi Silk,

Good to see you here. Yes that is another good option. There have been two games over the last week where the market expected few goals and the lay under 1.5 was 2.8 after 10 minutes. Both games had goals in them. The danger is the 0-0 or a goal late on whereby the back price doesn't drift out enough to allow a profit.

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