Metaltone

Fordster · **Joined:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:44 pm **Posts:** 4

Do you think Soccer Mystic could help in identifying price movements during games? I used it ages ago but noticed the odds were not reflecting the real odds so stopped using it. Does anyone know if this feature has improved?

adster · **Posted:** Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:46 pm

Fordster wrote:

Do you think you could automate this trade using Gruss Software or Bet Angel Excel Function? You would probably have to estimate the odds range after the goal but it could be done i think?

Not used Gruss so perhaps someone else can jump in. And whilst I use BAP for a lot of its features the excel is not one of them! I will look into it. As for SM, don't feel it's terribly accurate and rely more on 3 years of trading thousands of games to know where the market will go after a goal. Accurate software to predict pirce movements for goals would make someone a fortune!

statcat · **Joined:** Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:10 pm **Posts:** 11

Hi ad/ford

It should be possible to automate this strat with Gruss by writing some VBA code but as I see it the problem would be getting the IF's correct. Without trading whilst watching or listening to some form of commentary you will be making assumptions that may bear no relation to the way things are actually going. You could of course make mighty green by purely taking an accidental contrary view. But, say you had laid the draw in the Man U v Leeds match would you have applied this strat when Leeds scored or let it run for a bit? Man U were clearly terrible and never really posed a serious threat, but if they had scored then imo they would have got two so this strat again not required. I think trying this with a bot, though possible, would result in visits to either the mad, or the poor house (or possibly both). However should you choose to embark upon this path I wish you the very best of luck. And a very patient VBA coder.

statcat · **Joined:** Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:10 pm **Posts:** 11

BTW Why is it called the "Metaltone Strategy" ?

Cheers

Al

adster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:08 pm

statcat,

With a game like Leeds, yes you could have applied it and covered 1-1 too and let it run, that way IF Man u had scored you had the 1-1 covered and of course a big green on Man u to do something with depending when the equaliser came. The beauty of this strat is that your liabilities are small if the dog goes on to win.

Called Metaltone, cos he came up with it!!

mickmacnick · **Joined:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:21 pm **Posts:** 1

In situations where you have LTD my strategy when the dog scores is to lay the 1 - 0 (usually wait until it even money)for half your liability of the original lay. On the basis that you hope the fav goes on to win you are preserving original trade (LTD) and introducing new one. If fav doesn't go on to win but equalises, the draw price should increase sufficiently to get out at profit plus you have profit form laying 1 - 0.

statcat · **Joined:** Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:10 pm **Posts:** 11

Metal Tony

adster · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:16 pm

mickmacnick wrote:

In situations where you have LTD my strategy when the dog scores is to lay the 1 - 0 (usually wait until it even money)for half your liability of the original lay. On the basis that you hope the fav goes on to win you are preserving original trade (LTD) and introducing new one. If fav doesn't go on to win but equalises, the draw price should increase sufficiently to get out at profit plus you have profit form laying 1 - 0.

Welcome to the forum mick and thanks for the great post first off. Would think the 1-0 to the dog would reach evens around 70 to 75 mins. Downside is if the fave equalises after 75 mins the draw price will be pretty skinny mate. Of course both this and Metaltone require an equaliser to get you out of trouble although I like the fact that IF the dog does win 1-0 losses are kept to a minimum.

Thoughts?

jclive · **Joined:** Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:54 pm **Posts:** 10

I wasn't on the man utd game but i remembered the Metaltone strategy when i knew the result. If you'd done it how much you'd lose in relation you'd win if man utd would have scored?

Also, if the game stays 0-0 at what time do you trade off? or you just let it run? Or make insurance bets at say 0-0?

adster · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:50 pm

jclive wrote:

I wasn't on the man utd game but i remembered the Metaltone strategy when i knew the result. If you'd done it how much you'd lose in relation you'd win if man utd would have scored?

Also, if the game stays 0-0 at what time do you trade off? or you just let it run? Or make insurance bets at say 0-0?

Didn't trade it mate. But the metaltone strat means that IF the dog go on to win losses are small because you say you'd initally layed the draw for £50 green on either side, you'd then be laying that green for 75% of the new odds on them so a smallish red is the outcome.

The Wigan v Hull game was a beauty for it though. No doubt an excellent strat which I like to enhance by covering the 1-1 too.

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